ISSB Repeater Initial test

Query about the Repeater Candidates: Initial test and ISSB

A candidate can appear only two times in the ISSB if they are not recommended. A third chance is available after graduation. After the first chance of ISSB, either recommended or not recommended, candidates are called repeaters. They are called repeaters because they are appearing in the ISSB test a repeated time.

Also read; Initial & ISSB Material

Should I seek help from Non-recommended Candidates? If not, then why?

Who are Repeater Candidates?

Repeater Candidate has cleared their initial tests before for the specific course.
Repeater candidates are of two types

  1. Repeater candidates are those candidates who Got Not Recommendation from ISSB
  2. ISSB Recommended but they remain Low Merit in the final merit list

Procedure for Repeaters for Join Pak Army: PMA Long course

Repeater candidates will visit there respective Army Selection & Recruitment Centers as per dates given in the Advertisement of XYZ PMA long course available at Joinpakarmy.com

As per Official website, repeater candidates must report at nearest selection centres from 6th November 2021 to 15 November 2021.

  • Their documents will be checked for scrutiny. After verification of documents, they will appear for a Medical test & then a physical test examination.
  • They will receive their ISSB Call letter after 120 days of their previous appearance in ISSB
  • After clearance in medical & physical test, they will submit their ISSB form

The TCC candidates who apply for PmA long course and have undergone ISSB. He will be considered as a repeater irrespective of result.

Also read; 8 Qualities ISSB try to find in a Recommended Candidate: Personal Qualities of a Good Leader

Question: A Repeater after appearing for PAF ISSB, Do will the candidate attempt the initial test?

If a candidate applied in PAF courses and he attempted the ISSB exam, He will have to appear in the Initial test for Army. The same is the case for PAF. If one has cleared the PMA initial tests, When applying for PAF courses, He or she will go for the initial test in PAF.

Note

  • Initial online test on the computer for Repeater candidates
  • If TCC (Technical Cadet Course) Not Recommended or Low merit Candidates apply for PMA so, they will also be considered as repeater & they will not appear in the initial online test, Only they will appear in medical & physical test.

You might want to read; Recomended Candidate Experience: 147 PMA Long Course

If you have any question in your mind, You can ask in the comment section. We will reply you.

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158 thoughts on “Query about the Repeater Candidates: Initial test and ISSB”

  1. M. Mustafa Shah

    Can i Give Initial Test again in PMA lc 153 again if there is time to re apply after getting failed in initial test

  2. Sir i have failed the initial Test of PMA long Course 154 but there is still time to apply for Pma Long course 153. Am i eligible to apply again before the time ends.

  3. Rao Abdul Hannan

    And Sir apnay kaha tha jo issb mai aik dafa appear ho jayen unka initial dobara nhi hota.
    I was Not recommended from ISSB.
    Now i applied agained in PMA 153 L/C but i got the test date 22nd November Timing 1-3 pm lakin unho nai slip pr Appearance Status mai Repeater he likha hoa hai mujhay lakin phir test q.
    And sir please doseray question ka bhi answer kr dain am very confused.

  4. Rao Abdul Hannan

    Assalamualaikum!
    Sir today was my inital medical test and am a repeater candidate.
    Sir lakin meray university kay mid terms ki wajha sai mai nhi gya.
    Sir kya mai ab baad mai ja sakta hon? Ya mera test ho jaye ga agar mai ab dobara apply kron ga esi course mai PMA 153 L/C.ya mai papers sai free ho kr jao tou wo mera medical or physical lay lain gai?Am a repeater candidate.

  5. Abdulmohiz younis Mohiz

    Asslamualikum sir sir ma na tcc dia tha aur ma physical test ma fail hoa gia tha aur ab ma pma long course ma apply krna chata hoa kia mera intial test dobara hoa ga ya nahi

      1. Sir main issb ky ly short listed hon
        Month TU Kafi ho gy mgr name ni aya TU
        Mujy dobara intial test dena ho ga

    1. Aoa, Sir i am repeater of LC/151, i appeared in LC/153 but was declared under chest. Now, I’ll gonna apply in LC/154, sir now i have to only go through initial medical and physical. Or i have to go through the computer test.?

  6. Rao Abdul Hannan

    Assalamualaikum Sir.Sir i got Not recommended from issb i was a candidate of TCC-35 and my issb was in 23-26 july 2023.Now sir i wish to apply in PMA 153 LONG COURSE which will be announced in October/November 2023.Sir please mujhay yeh bata dain kya mera initial tests dobara hongay ya ISSB form mil jaye ga.Sir please detail mai bata dain.Thankyou.

    1. W.S, Apka initial test dobara nai hoga. You will be considered as a repeater candidate, as PMA long course and TCC applicants are considered repeater of each others. It is clearly mentioned on the Join Pak army website, that if you are a repeater of TCC, You can also apply for PMA long course as repeater, Jis me apkay initial test nai hongay.

      1. Sir mere dost ne with out NOC paf me apply Kiya he ab uski Issb he kch dino bad as a repeater .. jb k wo not recommended tha pehle or usne tb NOC show Kiya tha issb me . to kia issb walon ko pta chl jayega k usne NOC nhi Liya he ..plz guide it’s his last chance

  7. Pma151 se final merit main below huwa to ab next muje possible solutions bata dain kia wo tcc 35 k liye khud call karain gy ya muje navy ya air force k kisy course main khud apply krna ho ga

  8. Aoa sir, i m recommended in 151 pma long course lekin below merit ho gaya hon ab kia main navy ya PAF main recommendation bhejwa sakta ya nahi ya phr wo kia pata muje tcc 35 main khud call karain.navy or PAF or tcc main below merit hony k baad apply ka procedure bata dain.

  9. I made a mistake in my initial test registration form, what should I do now?
    I wrote my matric marks wrong. What’s the next step

  10. Aoa
    Sir,is there any need of registration for repeaters? Or we just have to report on the mentioned date at any AR&SC . ?

  11. Ahmed Abdullah

    I wanted to know that will a repeater also give initial computer test and interview or just the physical

      1. Which document I will have to bring on given army selection centre as a repeater and when my medical and physical test will be conducted?

  12. Sir i was not recommended in 153 gdp on 9 june 2022 now i have applied in gdp 155, i wanted to know if my initial test will be conducted again, test date is 29 march 2023

    1. Dear Rao Shahmir, There are different rules for each armed force and one is common to all. As well as you pass the Initials You can appear as many times if your age limit permits The most strict rule for initial test appearance is in PAF, where One can not apply if the person fail any three initial tests (Any initial tests including army and Navy). There is no such rule in Army or Navy.

    1. Dear Bilal Tariq, This is Not true.. Fresh candidate are more in numbers than repeaters, so they have their own proportion. For a example, there is 250 candidates, and 170 are fresh and 80 are repeaters, If 9 recommended from fresh candidates and 5 recommended from repeater.. Then how you will calculate it?

  13. Sir i am not recommended in short service commission from paf now i am applying after 1 year in pak navy in Short Service Commission Batch so i will give initial test ?

    1. Dear Bilal, Yes, You have to appear in Initial test again. Whenever you apply in different armed force, You must have to appear in their own Initial test.

  14. Respected sir. AOA
    sir me ny navy me PN Cadet me apply kia tha, ISSB me not recommend hua, now sir plz guide me ky agr me dobara navy me apply krna chahun ya army me apply krna chahun to kia mujhy ab dobara navy ya army ka initial test ka poora process krna hoga ya issb me direct call letter bhejain gy sir.
    Regards

      1. Sir ma initial ma reh giya tha to registration ka idea nhi tha is liye is bar repeater py registration karwai to unhon ny foram ki date batai is liya muj sy date guzar gai aj to kiya mera 2nd chance b miss ho giya please reply

          1. Aoa Dear sir !! I was a successful candidate of paf (GDP) last time, after clearing everything I got rejected by weight of 5 kg , they didn’t even informed me to loose weight !! Now I have applied again for GDP !!! Will they conduct my initials again or I’ll go straight to medical and stuff!!

            Regards

          2. W.salam, I think you were successful candidate in the initial tests only. You should have loose weight and then inform them, Then do not call candidate to come and clear their issues. If you didn’t appeared in the ISSB tests, They will conduct your initials again.

      1. Muhammad Azhar

        Aslaam o Alaikum sir I appeared in 151 PMA long course in Issb
        So If i will apply in 153 Course so the initial computer test will be given from me are not

      2. Sir I’ve given my151 issb on 28 Feb 2023 can I apply for 152 issb now.?

  15. Sir mei long course 147 mei not recommeded tha ab kia mjy dobara sara procedure sy guzarna hoga like again online test physical and medical all that??

  16. Sir i have passed initial of 152 Gdp and i’ve not called for issb… what should i do.?

      1. Dear Maham, Issb process is same for Fresh and Repeater candidates except Mechanical aptitude test. Apart from that, Repeaters k GTO outdoor tasks, Fresh se thoray tough hotay hen.

  17. Hi,
    I was not recommended in 140 & 141 PMA L/C.
    Is there any more chance for me on 6th yo 15th Nov-22 for 151 L/C?

    1. Dear Taha, were you Not recommended from issb or did you fail the Initial test? If you were not recommended from issb for two times, then you can’t apply. If you failed initial test two times then yes, you can apply, If your age limit permits.

  18. Aoa sir i have been not recomended in 150LC now whether on my previous perfomance or record i would be judged or past perfomance doesn’t matter?

  19. Aoa i wanted to know that why do repeaters have to report on 6-15 nov for 151 pma long course is this the only time period when repeaters can appear?

  20. Sir l was not recommended in 34 tcc now l want to apply for the 151 pma long course will l have to do the initial test again

    1. No, You will be considered as repeater candidate. The TCC candidates and PMA long course candidates are considered as Repeater for Alternative courses.

  21. Aoa Sir, if i dropped the call for my second chance in issb as i am repeater so i have to give initial again whenever i applied 4 the next time kindly explain me

  22. Aoa!!
    Sir kindly guide me about the issb call for repeators for lcc?
    May repeators given preference in shortlisting?

  23. Sir my age 23 years and 6 months and me repeater can I apply second time for issb

    1. On Fsc Basis, You cannot. Because age limit Joining date pe count hoti hay. So When you apply, aap already 24 cross kar chukay hogay. You can apply after Masters in short service commission.

  24. Assalamu Alikum
    I passed the initial for GDP and was not recommended in ISSB. Now I want to give test for CAE. Will I have to give the initial test again?
    Please guide.

    1. WALEKUM us salam, Yes Dear, Although You are a Repeater candidate, but you want to apply in a different Post/course this time. You will have to appear in the initial test again. If you Apply again for the Gdp, then No Initial tests will be held.

  25. NASIR HUSSAIN

    sir i am not recommended twice in pma. im a engineer now (graduate). is there ant chance for me to join army..?

    1. Dear, Nasir Hussain… Yes, You can apply in short service commission if your Age is within limit and you fulfill the prerequisites for the specific postsi.e. Engineering .

  26. Muhammad Suleman

    Sir due to current political situation ISLAMABAD is shut, but physical in Rawalpindi centre is on 26 may so whether physical will be taken or not Kindly..

    1. Visit the centre on working days, Your test will be conducted. For more information, please call your respective selection centre in the working hourse (between 9 am to 2 pm).

  27. A,o,A . Sir
    Do any body have idea about the validation of initial test i.e How many years initial test valid for..?

      1. Dear Sir kindly confrem me about that, I have appeared in PMA 139LC. I got not recommendation letter. Now I want to appear again after my graduation. What will be the process for now, either I have to gone through whole process from initial to ISSB or just have to appear in ISSB.

        1. Dear Mubashir, You can apply through short service commission if eligible.. The Initial tests for Long course and Short service commission are different, So definitely You will go through the Whole Initial test process.

  28. A,o,A . Sir
    Do any body have idea about the validation of initial test i.e How many years initial test valid for..?

    1. Dear Umer, If anyone Lost their old Issb Recommendation/Not Recommendation letter, They can apply for the issuance of a new one. You can apply for the New letter through the official website of ISSB. Thank you.

  29. Assalam O Alaikum Sir I have two questions Ist Question: In my slip it is writeen to visit respective centres between 17 may and 27 may But I am in university when I will visit center in these days Whether medical will be taken on same day or on next day it will be taken because in my university semester is ending in these days the semester project as well as there are lot off things it is difficult to manage a leave from university. MY 2ND QUESTION: Will there be a initial interview taken from repeater candidate. Kindly SIR……………

    1. Although, Medical and Initial interviews have different schedule at different centres. If your Selection centre is Conducting medical and interview on the same day, It is good for you, as you have to attend the university. If your selection center doesn’t conduct the the medical test and interview on the same day, You can visit early and inform them about your situation about semester end plans. They will surely accommodate you. The Answer of 2nd question is Yes. There will be an initial interview for repeater candidates.

      1. Sit i have filled my registration form wrong for pma150 i failed in intial test of pma 149 but in registration i filled my appreance status has a repeater and in test slip it is written that come toAS&RC for issb repeater form
        What will i do now i have not pass my intual test for pma 149 last year and my friend says that you are not repeater

        1. Dear, Please prepare yourself for the initial test process as you are not a repeater candidate. You will go through the whole initial test process including Intelligence test, academic test, medical test, physical test and interview. Please visit the selection centre in given Days, and tell about the mistake in registration process. They will correct it and then your initial test will be held accordingly.

    2. Muhammad Taimoor Shahzad

      1st Answer: There are two possibilities. One is that your madical will be taken the same day you visit the center and physical on another day (Any date for physical can be given). Second is your documents will be checked on the day you visit the center and you will be given another date for BOTH physical and medical.
      2nd Answer: If you have cleared initial interview before then there will be no initial interview like 149LC candidates will not give an interview in 150LC and so on but if you haven’t cleared an interview before then initial interview is compulsory even for a repeater candidate.

  30. SIR
    If i apply in 151 after NR in 149 i will be consider repeater or not?

    1. Danyal ali

      I was failed in Initial interview of PMA 147 now if I apply in PMA 150 then would I be considered as repeater or not

    2. Danyal ali

      Sir I applied in PMA 147 but could not gone under the ISSB i was failed in Initial interview so now if I apply in PMA 150 so would I be considered as repeater or not

    3. Danyal ali

      Sir I failed in Initial interview in PMA 147 now if I apply for PMA 150 then what will be procedure of test does it will be start from initial computerized test ?

  31. Hello sir, i wanted to ask the time since the time written on my slip is so vague and not clear, initially it said 7:30:00 hrs was mentioned and now only 7:30:00 is written there. i have tried calling them but nobody picks up what should i do about it?

    1. Persona psychologist

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      1. AOA , sir recently i applied for TCC34( repeater candidate ) and filled out my registration form and in the exam slip i have been proclaimed a fresh candidate , will i have to give initial test again or not ?

        1. Did you appeared in ISSB previously? If yes, Then you are a repeater candidate. If you have done any mistake in your registration form. Don’t worry about it. You can correct it on the test date by the selection centre staff.

          1. Sir initial test pma ka Liya kitni chances hota ha aghar test fail howa initial to kya us ka chances kharab hogaya

  32. Sir What does it mean to appear in IssB. a person who got call letter but couldn’t go will he be considered as appeared?

    1. Appearance in ISSB means you visited the ISSB centre and appear in the ISSB Exam/tests. When you appear in the ISSB, Apkay Har Original educational documents k peechay Ik BARI Stamp lagay gi, Jis pe sari detail hogi. Batch of ISSB, When Appeared, in which course? Jab tak wo stamp na lagay, You are a Fresh Candidate.

    1. If you do not appear in ISSB. The 120 days condition of ISSB will not be applicable to you.

  33. Dear sir, I am not recommended candidate for air defense (Air Force). Now I have applied for PMA 149 and cleared my initials. I want to ask that will I be considered as a repeater or a fresher in the ISSB center? Because I heard that fresher will have to give aptitude test in ISSB for PMA but in PAF ISSB there was no such test.

    1. Persona psychologist

      There Is Flying Aptitude Test For GDP after ISSB recommendation. There is No such Aptitude test for any branch in army or PAF. If something New is added. We will update here.

    1. Persona psychologist

      Yes, You have two Chances to Appear in ISSB in Case of two Time Not Recommendation. If you get Recommendation, You can appear As many Time As your Age permits.

  34. Yes Sir I Have Informed the ISSb through letter with medical certificate but my name still appear in call letter section of IssB ?

    1. Abdullah Akmal

      Is it necessary that only those candidates have chance of recommendation who are interviewed twice in ISSB ??

  35. Sir If a candidate get IssB dates but Couldn’t go to IssB centre due to illness will his count ?

      1. Sir If candidate get IssB Dates But Couldn’t go to IssB centre Will IssB Counts his Chances This means Candidate can still avail that chance Later and will he be considered as repeater ?

        1. Persona psychologist

          If you don’t appear, You will not be counted as repeater. Aap kisi b masla k waja se nai jaa skty to ISSB ko lazmi inform karen. Through Phone Call, Email or letter.

          1. zulqurnain haider

            Sir! I was not recommended in PMA L/C 145. Now if i apply for PMA L/C 151 will be my initial computerized test and initial interview held?

          2. Dear Zulqarnain, You are applying almost after 2 years in the pma long course. Your initial computerized test and interview will be held along medical and physical fitness examination.

  36. Muhammad Hammad Ahsan

    Hi sir,
    I had applied in 145 GDP course and I was not recommended from ISSB. Now I am going to apply in 153 GDP course. Would I have to go through from the initial process again or not?
    Kindly guide me!
    Thank you.

    1. Persona psychologist

      Hi Muhammad Waseem, I think you are applying after 02 years for the GDP branch in PAF. I think you will go through the whole process of initial tests. Although this is not confirmed. Just visit the selection center, wese b medical and interview k liye aap ne jaana to hay. Agar apka test hota hay, ya nai hota, Dono soorato me comment section me aagah karen. Shukria.

  37. If any one got Recommended in ISSB of Army/Navy.Then what is the procedure to join PAF as GD Pilot????

    1. Persona psychologist

      Dear Shahid Khan, The procedure to join the PAF as a GD pilot is the same as a fresh candidate. You will clear the initial test, medical and interview and then ISSB. After that, if you qualified for the flying aptitude test and the merit list for GDP, you will get selected.

  38. Aoa, sir i had given issb in paf 128th spssc engg short commission course and was not recommended now i want to apply in 129th in same eng coarse will i have to give initial test again or just medical and interview and then issb.

    1. Persona psychologist

      Dear Ali Ejaz, You are a repeater candidate for the same course, You will not give the initial test again.

  39. Aoa sir i am not recommended from 152 GDP and now want to apply for Air defence will i undergo through the initial stages?

    1. Persona psychologist

      W.salam, Apka initial medical and interview hoga and then you will appear in ISSB.

  40. I tried for long course 148 but failed in issb.. now i want to try for tcc, will i only give issb?? or i’ll have to go through same initial process?

    1. Persona psychologist

      You will register yourself for the TCC, as repeater Candidate. You will called for Medical and ISSB accordingly.

    1. Persona psychologist

      Kon say Initial me? Air force? Army or Navy? Air Force me Initial K 3 chances hen for Failure.

  41. Muhammad Saqlain

    Sir is there any process to re interview in initial test I am not recommended in initial interview.I don’t know why they reject me. In our group( 2nd group) out of 24 only 4 are selected. From the first group out of 22 11 are selected.

    1. Persona psychologist

      Dear Muhammad Saqlain, No There is No process to apply for the Interview. Initial interview is a screening interview in which candidates are screened on the following basis.
      1. Communication skills
      2. Body language
      3. Awareness
      4. Self confidence
      You have to improve in these to Pass Initial interview for the PMA long course or any interview exam.

  42. Sir i am not Recommended in Tcc 33 and want to apply Tcc 34 will they give me issb form or i will do initial again

  43. Sir i have been not recommended from 151 GDP course now i’ll apply for 153 GDP. Am i supposed to give initial test again or not?

  44. kashaf khalid

    AOA Sir. I cleared PMA 148/LC initial and didn’t go for issb due to some personel issue and even i have lost the registration slip of 148/LC. Now i have applied for 149/LC as regular. So do i have to give initial again?

  45. Muzammil shahzad

    If a candidate fail initial online computer exam, does it will be considerd his first chance out of three or he still has 3 chances in hand?

    1. Persona psychologist

      Dear Muzammil Shehzad, If someone fail the initial test (any one test), his or her chance will be counted out of 3 (only for PMA LC). Then there will be 02 more chances to attempt the initial tests. Further, Initial test have no effect on issb chances, which are two for All candidates and third chance for Graduates having 14 or 16 year education as required. Hope this will help you.

  46. i applied in 151 GDP and got not recommended and now i have applied for 152 GDP am i suppose to give inital test again?

    1. Persona psychologist

      Dear Ali Mehdi, You are a repeater candidate for GdP course in paf. Please complete your Registration as normal candidates. No You will not give initial test again. Please contact me through Email. Thank you.

    2. If someone had entered their fsc marks and register for pma.
      After registration his marks increases.
      What will he do now?
      Will he have to register again with the new marks or he should do nothing..

      1. Persona psychologist

        Dear, you have to do nothing at this stagen. When you report at your respective selection centre for initial tests, then you will inform the staff about your Marks increase. They will update your data accordingly.

  47. Muhammad Saad

    I applied for the SSC124 Airforce. I was not recommended in ISSB.(Bachelor Base)
    Now I want to apply for Pakistan Navy through 4th Batch of Lateral Entry (Master’s Base). Do I have to clear the initial test there?

    1. Persona psychologist

      Dear Muhammad Saad, Yes, you have to clear the Initial tests for Pak Navy posts.

  48. Respected sir
    i appeared in ssrc 2021 for selection as gdmo. i passed all my initials and was declared fit by cmh. i was called for interview but did not recieved the call letter. my query is that if i apply again in next course will i be considered a repeater or i will have to go through all the initials again.
    regards

    1. Persona psychologist

      You will be considered as a Repeater without loosing the Chance. Please Register yourself as a Normal candidate, Then will call you for the interview and medical as desired.

        1. Persona psychologist

          It depends on Recruitment selection centers. Kuch initial interview nai lety. Kuch Initial medical and Initial interviews both lay lety hen.

          1. Syed Maaz Shah

            Asalam o alaikum sir! I have been not recommended from the ISSB of 149 GDP and now I have applied for 152 GDP. Will I give initial test and initial interview again?

          2. Persona psychologist

            Dear Syed Maaz Shah, Yes you will give initial test, Medical and interview Again.

    2. Aoa, Sir I was appear in PN cadet 2021-B and not recommend .now i apply for the same will i have to appeae in initial test or not.

      1. Persona psychologist

        Did you applied in PN cadet 2022-A. If yes, You have to register yourself as a repeater. There is No requirement of Initial computerized test for you.

  49. Muhammad Yaseen

    I am not recommended from 93 CAE 2018. Now I want to apply again for same course. Will I have to give initial test and interview this time?

    1. Persona psychologist

      Dear Muhammad Yaseen,You will undergo the initial medical Examination, and there might be chances that your Initial interview might be held. Please be in contact, we will deliver Fact Info before your Apply in 98 CAE course. Thank you.

    2. I am not recommend from GDP course of paf course if I will apply again in PAF but in other field will I give whole initial process or only medical.

        1. My age 23 years 6 months hai or repeater houn kia mai apply kr skta houn dobara tcc

        2. Abdullah Masood

          Sir I applied for Initial test for PMA long course in May 2023 but couldn’t attend test.Will I be considered a repeater?

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